Hi John Ptacek

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Deanna, if we can agree that God and nature are interchangeable, then I understand your point. Each is a term we reach for to describe the indescribable. However the God that many hold dear is one that punishes, one that sends people to hell, etc. This is not the God I refer to. This is a God created by man, a complete illusion. The God I refer to is the source of all things natural, a life force not a moody person with an agenda. The philosopher baruch Spinoza put it nicely when he said: "Nature is everything. There is mass, energy, atoms, molecules, life, thought, people, societies, galaxies and perhaps multiple universes (pure speculation). But there is nothing outside nature, including spiritual visions and other phenomena we don't yet understand. If they exist, they are part of nature." If you do stumble onto my site and read the essay filed under CHOICE, I go deeper into this concept. It has cocked a lot of heads, and I would be interested in your feedback.