On the one hand I sort of get what you're saying only because the " church " has fought out of this trench for years. I've been married to the same woman for 37 years...and have been a christian for almost as long. We can get all biblical about " open the conversation about marriage, family, relationships, sex, and men "...and we'll bounce back and forth between Paul who was never married, and the Old Testament. And we can likely come up with a formula, construct a rigid box, a map to the perfect marriage. But we won't spend to much time in the gospels listening to Jesus. Why?

For on thing, he didn't say too much about marriage, when he was confronted by the religious establishment about divorce.

But what he does talk about is " relationship " between each other, in the context of a community, and as a humanity. To me this is the churches most catastrophic failure. The place where it should be the safest place to talk about anything is the most dangerous, the most critical and the most judgmental. Instead, as the old quote goes, " the church doesn't heal there wounded, it kills them."

We need to learn how to restore the profound redemptive imagination of what " relationship " is within in the context of Jesus in the gospels...until we do that will fail at ever aspect of what it means to be fully human.

Sex, marriage, men...why people in general are leaving the church are all diversions to distract us from the real issue...we don't know how to live with each other.